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魔法詠唱中に決まった配列のコマンドを入力し続けることでどこまでも威力が上がるとか
格ゲーとかはプレイヤースキル大事だけど天井あるじゃん？
格ゲーとかはプレイヤースキル大事だけど天井あるじゃん？
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モンハン
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FPS
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モンハンもFPSも全然違う
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音ゲー
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弾幕か音ゲーでもやってろ
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天井っていっても小足見える奴いないから理論値出せてる奴なんかいない
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テトリス
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ぷよぷよ
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なんで格ゲーに天井あるとおもったの
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囲碁
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その例えから格ゲーは天井あるとか意味わかんねえ。格ゲーやったことないのはわかる
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格ゲーの天井ってどこだよ…
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ゲームだから天井があるわけで、>>1はもうオリンピックでも目指すといい
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全部
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ウメハラが一撃で対戦相手倒すようなコマンド入力できるなら天井ないけど無理じゃん？
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fps
将棋類
将棋類
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これの答えは結局STGに落ち着く
弾幕ゲーじゃなくちゃんとしたSTGな
弾幕ゲーじゃなくちゃんとしたSTGな
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lolやれ
俺は辞めたけど
俺は辞めたけど
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リアルタイムシミュレーション？は近いかも
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THE・将棋
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格ゲーに天井があるならどのジャンルでも同様の天井があるよ
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てか対人対戦は違うんだよな
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ダメージ上限なくして欲しいって話っぽいな
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>>68
それを操作でやるのよ
どうやるかは考えてないけど
それを操作でやるのよ
どうやるかは考えてないけど
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マリオRPGのスーパージャンプ
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育成が無限ってこと？
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ディスガイアでもやってろよ
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格ゲーも近いんだけどなんかミクロなんだよな
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どうしても運要素絡めないと厳しい
ぷよぷよとかテトリスが近いものだろうとは思う
ぷよぷよとかテトリスが近いものだろうとは思う
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例えばモンハンで言うと、
実力上げればクエスト受けた瞬間にクリアできるような仕組みにしろ、ってこったろ
どうやるんだよ
実力上げればクエスト受けた瞬間にクリアできるような仕組みにしろ、ってこったろ
どうやるんだよ
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モンハンで言うと部位に心臓とか首切断とかがあって上手くそこに十分な威力の技を命中させたら一撃討伐とか？
なんか足りないけど
なんか足りないけど
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魔法詠唱中にコマンドを入力し続けるのはプレイヤースキルとは言わないと思うんだが
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>>122
ただの一例だよ
特に思いつくもののないままスレ立てたらそんなもんでしょ
ただの一例だよ
特に思いつくもののないままスレ立てたらそんなもんでしょ
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FPS全般
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対人は最終的に実力拮抗して微妙な差で勝敗決まるだけじゃね
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>>141
俺が俺ツエーできなくてもいいから上手い人が圧倒的強者になるようなゲーム？
ないだろうけどないかなぁと思って
俺が俺ツエーできなくてもいいから上手い人が圧倒的強者になるようなゲーム？
ないだろうけどないかなぁと思って
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>>147
実力が引っくり返らなければ負けない感じ？
期間はよくわかんないや
実力が引っくり返らなければ負けない感じ？
期間はよくわかんないや
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職人的スキルじゃないやつがいいんだろ？
もう人生オンラインやった方がいいぞｗｗｗ
もう人生オンラインやった方がいいぞｗｗｗ
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どのゲームでも基本強くなれるだろ
1001：オススメ記事＠＼(^o^)／：2017/05/11 08:02:00 ID:highgamers
この記事が気に入ったらイイネ！しよう♪
いつでも全部読み放題♫
要するに格ゲーで言うと一度始動すれば回避不能確定即死コンボがあるような
上手ければ一発終了が可能なゲームってことじゃないんか？
あとはガンシューティングとか、当然ゲーセンの実際に手に持って撃つタイプのやつな
音ゲーの全曲パーフェクト、シューティングの理論上最高点も人間に到達できる領域じゃないから天井とは言わん
こいつの言ってることは突き詰めると、プレイヤーのテクでゲームの限界を超えることだろ
ゲームに限界が設定されてるからこそなんか凄そうなその上があるのであって、最初から青天ならこんな発想はできないからな
なにそのクソゲー
最近じゃr6s とかがそれっぽい
言ってる意味がよくわかんない
ただ小さなテクや経験の積み重ねのせいで強くなっている体感が全くない
伸び代が短いけどFPSとかの方が体感あるしプレイングに直結するけどw
召喚獣の連打とゼルのデュエル
このイッチは中級者にすらなれなさそうだ
プレイヤーのスキル(知力)は際限がない
ターン性だからアクション要素も必要ない
しかしこの1ちゃんには理解できないだろうなぁwwwwwww草が生えて刈りきれないwwwwwww
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